NOAA fact forum - Part 5 - Russ Green

One day my mother came home from work and said, "I told them today that I am not going to any more of the staff"input" meetings." When asked why she had made that decision, she said" They say they want our input in order to craft policies and procedures, but it is clear that they have already decided what they are doing and are just asking us for input because some management book told them we would be happier if we thought we were having an effect on the policies that are being implemented. That's a waste of my time."

That is what came to mind as Mr. Green was speaking. There was a definite air of "we are doing this to make you feel like you have some say in the process, but it will happen whether you like it or not."

In one of the earlier video descriptions there was a thought experiment. Here is another one: Should the federal government's interest in gaining control over such a large body of fresh water (or any other resource that may be in or under Lake Michigan) become pressing, how could we prevent them from designating every piece of driftwood, driftglass and rusting metal as being "of historical significance" and therefore subject to the jurisdiction of NOAA?

As with some of the other speakers, the unspoken word "yet" could have been added to many of the denials that NOAA would end up with sole control and jurisdiction over the entire area of the designated marine sanctuary. And given the expansion of the Thunder Bay sanctuary, there are no guarantees. Even were we to believe all the top down nonsense and even if it were true, without a change of the pertinent rules and regulations imposed on marine sanctuaries by NOAA there is no way to prevent them from becoming tyrannical under a change of personnel or administrations.

Wisconsin is better off taking care of it's own.

This blog has also posted video from a meeting held in March to organize some opposition to the proposed sanctuary. (Which was the first time this author had heard about it even though the process has apparently been going on for some years.) That video may be found here.

"14 And the men took of their victuals, and asked not counsel at the mouth of the Lord.

15 And Joshua made peace with them, and made a league with them, to let them live: and the princes of the congregation sware unto them.

16 And it came to pass at the end of three days after they had made a league with them, that they heard that they were their neighbours, and that they dwelt among them." ~ Joshua 9:14-16